Podtrac’s ranker for the most listened-to podcasts during the month of March delivered some good news to conservative talk host Ben Shapiro. His Daily Wire-produced podcast jumped from fifth place to second, behind perennial No. 1 “The Daily,” the New York Times’ morning news podcast. “This American Life,” iHeartRadio’s “Stuff You Should Know” and NPR’s “Up First” round out the top five. Podtrac doesn’t make public the actual listening data for each show.

Here’s the list of the top shows in March among publishers measured by Podcast:

Podtrac has also reissued its monthly ranker of the top 20 biggest podcast publishers. The company says the update “contains corrections to the number of shows” credited to Wondery for March 2019. The result is its monthly global unique download and stream total jumped to 54.7 million, up from a previously-reported 45.6 million. The revised ranker includes 67 shows produced by Wondery, which is two more than in the earlier release.